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  1. Yeah I honestly can't imagine how anybody can be on the fence anymore.
  2. Mikey

    [POLL #160] Showering

    I shower twice a day.
  3. Linux gang rise up! I didn't know iOS ran on computers, nor can I imagine why anybody would want to use it over MacOS....
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    PC Racing Games

    FOUND IT! I used to be in a clan (Dark Jedi Organization baby! What a time when they had 50 clans across various different games) for this free game. Now apparently it's free on steam! I remember it being a blast. I will be demoing it this weekend to see if it still holds up, but if so I highly recommend we get some games going! https://store.steampowered.com/app/11020/TrackMania_Nations_Forever/
  5. I strongly encourage, if you join and make your first moves, to check again tomorrow morning EST to see if others have joined. if someone joined into a country you had attack orders for, you might be in for a rough time since they get their cities filled with infantry, rather than the default millitia. password is: sk
  6. Since people are getting back into atwar, we have been having some regular pick up games, as well as experiment with the casual (multi-hour turn) format. I am running a Eurasia game with 24 hours per turn, so play on your own time. Win condition is capture and hold the enemy capital city for 3 turns. We are currently in turn one - I will be letting my turn timer run out, so there is 24 hours from me for you to join, choose a country, and make your starting moves before the first turn ends. You can join through turn 10 though in case you see this later. https://atwar-game.com/games/?link=4817092204
  7. The SK Fridge is in need of new materials, and I am getting the correct apple pencil tonight to finally be able to draw marginally less terrible pictures. That means it's skribble time! I'm planning to launch a game at 8pm tomorrow, eastern time. Anyone interested?
  8. This man has his priorities strait.
  9. Does anyone play any good racing games on PC? I remember I used to be super into this one years back. Always loved the genre, but kind of forgot about it for a while. I know we've played rocket league a fair bit (and I intend to have a few tournaments in that), but I think it would be fun to get some racing tournaments in as well. Free games are the best, if anyone knows any, since we could get a good group going. Paid is also fine for my own interest.
  10. I believe it was the secretary of state who had Kyoto removed from any bombing campaigns due to the density of historical/heritage sites in the city. It is a spectacular beautiful city, It is a spectaculalrly beautiful area, I'll give it that. I might prefer it to Paris.
  11. Warning: long post ahead because this is a contentious issue and I had to tap a lot of sources to sketch out this picture. It is neither revisionist nor propaganda. Yours is the revisionist version, in fact. Not that that's a bad thing. Saying that the civil war was about slavery and not a noble "lost cause" is also revisionist and I wouldn't dispute that. Revisionism gets a bad rap when it's just about revising the commonly accepted historical consensus. For WW2, that consensus for decades was that the bombs ended the war. I wouldn't dispute that their importance was overstated, as I will get into. That said, the fact that Japanese civilians were being trained in hand combat to resist an invasion is well attested,. as is the massing of suicide small craft to blunt US navy and landing forces, as is what I noted about Saipan. We will never truly know the extent to which the Japanese people would have resisted an invasion, though given the fierce resistance put up by the military everywhere else, it wasn't unreasonable to fear massive casualties in the event. Especially given allied intelligence tracking large scale military build ups in southern Kyushu in the months preceding the bombings. There's a reason we were still using purple hearts made for the pacific war decades after the fact. I would also dispute that they were willing to have a clean surrender. The only documentation of this refers to Truman's knowledge that the Japanese were making peace overtures to the Soviets, which is true. The foreign office (without the approval of the military) were asking the Soviets to help negotiate a settlement keeping much of their pre-war empire in tact. Even Alperovitz, the arch revisionist from the 60s, claims largely without sources that the Japanese were willing to surrender if they could keep their Emperor and constitution. No new power structure, no war crimes punishments, the same military dictatorship they had been under. I have no problem, if that was true, with the allies rejecting that as unnectable, and it is afar cry from the end result of allowing the emperor as a figure head while otherwise transforming the nations politics and punishing other war criminals. And even that, done in the aftermath of the bombs and soviet invasions, was not actually approved by the cabinet. It took the Emperor's personal intervention to break a tie (with the entire military wing refusing even that), which led to a failed coup attempt against him by military hardliners. I will agree with you that the Soviet invasion factored heavily into the Japanese surrender, likely moreso than the bombs. But for reasons nobody could have predicted. The fact that the Japanese were holding out for Soviet assistance forcing a favorable negotiated peace - despite historical hostility and the open commitment of the Soviets to join the war - is so outside the realm of reality, that even with the transcripts and cabinet notes as proof, it is still difficult to comprehend. Truman and allied commanders were pressuring the Soviets to enter the war (in an ironic reversal of roles to 2 years prior) to split the burden of fighting the Japanese military and take pressure off an American invasion, not because they had any reason to believe the mere act of invasion itself would suddenly end the war. Tsuyoshi Hasegawa’s Racing the Enemy: Stalin, Truman, and the Surrender of Japan is an interesting source that takes a third path in the traditional revisionist/traditionalist school. I don't agree with all his premises, particularly that the bomb was more about keeping the soviets out (when we have plenty of documented proof the allies wanted them in, albeit balked at Stalins demands). But while he agrees with you that ultimately it was the Soviet invasion that had a more pivotal role to play in the surrender, the shock of the bombs - and their close timing to the shock of soviet attack - was important in spurring the cabinet, and especially in providing a more palatable excuse for surrender. I cannot find any contemporary sources from Truman suggesting the bomb was about flexing on the Russians. There are diary entries and tenements from aids and journalists accompanying him that he was conflicted about the use of the bomb. You can argue, then, that if he wasn't certain about their value, such a decision should never have been made. You are correct that some high ranking generals argued afterwards that the bomb was not needed to end the war. They also suggested that the japanese were willing to surrender, for which there is absolutely no evidence, and plenty of evidence to the contrary - unless you count reverting to the pre-war status quo as a meaningful surrender. I can hardly blame them of course for thinking so, given how thoroughly hopeless the Japanese position was, a position in which any other country would have long since surrendered. I can accept an argument (that is echoed in some of those generals you note) that if Japan had been unwilling to surrender in the run up to the bombs, likely nothing short of full invasion would have induced them to. And that dropping the bombs out of a hope - but by no means a certainty or even high probability - that it could prevent the need for invasion, was unjustified. That is going to come down to how you weigh the lives of your soldiers (all casualty projections for a potential invasion was high, and included belief that Japanese civilians would have put up resistance alongside the military. Which is borne out in other incidents) against enemy civilians. I am certainly unsympathetic to the concept of Strategic bombing in general. But it is simply not true that the Japanese were ready to engage in any meaningful surrender, or that Truman and others in the administration did not hold out some hope that the bombs could somehow shock the Japanese into finally giving in, obviating the need for invasion.
  12. I think people underestimate the extent to which the Japanese were still willing to fight. School teachers were grinding bamboo sticks into makeshift spears, and having daily drills with the children to practice thrusting. Thousands of small craft were requisitioned to be turned into makeshift fire boats and kamikaze vessels. It's honestly difficult to comprehend not only the determination of many military brass to die fighting (so much so that there was an attempted coup against the Emperor after he ordered the surrender), but also the willingness of the civilians to go along with it. Remember Saipan, where almost the entire civillian population committed suicide rather than surrender to American troops. Mothers jumping off cliffs with their children. Honestly though, even weirder to me is the impact of the Soviet invasion of Manchuria. This also contributed heavily to Japan's surrender - some argue moreso than the atomic bomb - but for reasons that are mostly incomprehensible, and entirely outside what anyone at the time could have expected. The Japanese actually believed the USSR would come to their aid, and force the allies to accept a peace with Japan that would allow them to keep all pre-war territory (like Korea, Taiwan, Manchuria) and basically just to status-quo antibellum, with no war crimes charges or any punishments. It was a pretty insane hope, considering the soviets and Japanese had always been hostile to each other. Plus the Soviets had publicly commitedd to invading Japanese territory at the Yalta conference, which the Japanese knew about... Consider it the last straw grasps from a power that knew it was defeated, but refused to surrender.
  13. Circa 2010 or 2020? Because if we're talking modern times, Skype is just not a contender.
  14. I love the summer, idk why anyone who doesn't live in a hot climate would want to skip it. Floridians, sure. But Brad, you crazy. I wouldn't mind 1-2 months of winter either, but it's way too long.
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